Jim has fallen into a coma, so Cecily and A.Ron listen to him breath for 45ish minutes.  While they listen for a sigh, they discuss well-read women, the growing attraction between members of the Vatican and sin, the growing distance between those we thought we loved, and idolatry.


Jim, Cecily, and A.Ron discuss episode 4 of The New Pope.  John Paul III considers what the real world is as he steps closer to sin, Voiello attempts to treat with the nuns ever-growing demands, Lenny visits someone desperately in need, and Marilyn Manson doesn’t know who ANYONE is.